bw ou changes

[KorpiklaaniVodka]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw2-suspect-proposal.3535733/page-4

- excadrill is now allowed
- sun and sand have been heavily nerfed: no more drought + chlorophyll and sand stream + sand rush.

 

[srinator]

for a second i thought elf's volt turn team would be usable again then i read the second part

 

[Anti]

i have no opinion on this on a nuts-and-bolts pokemon level as i have played literally no bw2, but i do find it quite curious that they made a fairly major tiering shift (ie not banning ingrain smeargle in adv lol) to a dead metagame. i hope it improves it since everyone complains a lot about bw2, and i kinda buy it since i was most displeased with bw1.

 

[Void.]

bw2 ou is far from a dead metagame though, it's one of the most featured metagames in official tournaments. spl, wcop, classic and stour (which is twice a year), bw2 ou gets more exposure in the tournament scene than the current gen lower tiers lol.

 

[Anti]

bw2 ou is far from a dead metagame though, it's one of the most featured metagames in official tournaments. spl, wcop, classic and stour (which is twice a year), bw2 ou gets more exposure in the tournament scene than the current gen lower tiers lol.

yeah poor choice of words, perhaps going for "not the current generation meta." there is mild precedent b/c of the ingrain smeargle clause/ban (idr what it was) in adv but it sure seems odd. for example, dpp is played in p much all of the tours you mentioned but i'd be stunned if they retested latias. maybe it just speaks to bw2 itself if the 3-4 years or so of time they had to tier it (though no other previous gen had to deal with, say, rb2 or gs2 or rs2) was not enough to make an adequate ruleset. it certainly seems abnormal though. not bad, but abnormal.