2nd Gen Noctowl or Pidgeot?

[o.necromancer.o]

Depends on what your looking for. If you want defense-Noctowl - If you want attack-Pigeot

 

[Tabatha]

I don't really like Noctowl at all I think it looks silly....so definatly pidgeot

 

[kevinkjb81]

i like both pidgeot and and noctowl

 

[herojelly]

I like Pidgeot with the mega attack power and decent flying type moves.

In my Crystal version I was trying to get my Hoothoot to evolve by traning it. All I could do was Tackle for most of the trip up Sprout Tower. Then It learned Peck! But, the attack power is the same and the only difference is that peck has 100 accuracy and is a flying type move! After a million years, it learned Hypnosis! 'Hoothoot's attack missed!' 'HYPNOSIS did not affect the foe's "enter name here" ' What a hoot. No pun intended.

 

[Red1530]

I lean toward Pidgeot because it seams more powerful.

 

[Jake♫]

It depends. Pidgeot has A LOT more STAB moves, but Noctowl has a more diverse move pool by a long shot. I just depends on what you like.

For me, it's Pidgeot

 

[icomeanon6]

I say that I use Pidgeot for speed reasons, but it's really because it looks cooler. Also, I first became acquainted with Pokemon through the RBY games, so there's probably a nostalgia factor there, too.

 

[Cerisse]

Noctowl bites...

Depends on what your looking for. If you want defense-Noctowl - If you want attack-Pigeot

Actually, Noctown has horrible defenses. Pidgeot is better, not because it's a third evolution, but because it simply has better stats, overall. It's even better than Fearow. Fearow is the worst flying evolved type.

 

[sims796]

Being a third evolution means crap. Heracross is a great sweeper, and it doesn't evolve.

Now, Personally, I like Noctowl better. But battlewise, that dedpends. They serve two totally different roles. Noctrowl is more support, Pigeot is more offense. In the Metal versions, I'm not sure, but in D/P, Noctowl is more useful.

 

[KantoJohto]

Idk it's really hard for me because I love flying types and both seem great. Noctowl excels in HP, SP.DEF, and SPD so I am leaning towards him. I liked Ash's Noctowl it was soo cool. Movesets for both:

Noctowl:
-Fly
-Hypnosis
-Confusion
-Reflect

Pidgeot:
-Fly
-Wing Attack
-??
-??

 

[Sydian]

I say it depends on what you need, or what kind of battler you are.

Noctowl is more on the defensive side. I have fun trying to hurry and get them out of the way on DP.

Pidgeot is speedy and has good offense and is pretty. :D

So, I really can't choose between the two. I heart them both. <3

 

[LipstickTraces]

I say it depends on what you need, or what kind of battler you are.

Noctowl is more on the defensive side. I have fun trying to hurry and get them out of the way on DP.

Pidgeot is speedy and has good offense and is pretty. :D

So, I really can't choose between the two. I heart them both. <3

agreed, it entirley depends on your tactics. both pokemon are cool, though i do prefer the earlier evolutions of both for how they look. pigeotto and hoothoot. battlewise, obviously the later evolutions would be chosen. id personally go for pigeot. but i think i might try out noctowl now that you mention it :)

 

[sims796]

Idk it's really hard for me because I love flying types and both seem great. Noctowl excels in HP, SP.DEF, and SPD so I am leaning towards him. I liked Ash's Noctowl it was soo cool. Movesets for both:

Noctowl:
-Fly
-Hypnosis
-Confusion
-Reflect

Pidgeot:
-Fly
-Wing Attack
-??
-??

Horrible movesets.

Noctowl@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Hypnosis
Reflect/Night Shade
Roost
Whirlwind

I'll get to Pidgeot later.

Fly is an awful move in general, Wing Attack is no good...at least, not in D/P. I'm not sure about Crystal.

 

[KantoJohto]

Horrible movesets.

Noctowl@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Hypnosis
Reflect/Night Shade
Roost
Whirlwind

I'll get to Pidgeot later.

Fly is an awful move in general, Wing Attack is no good...at least, not in D/P. I'm not sure about Crystal.

Ok first off I rarely use Pidgeot which is why I couldn't come up with a moveset. Did you forget this IS NOT Diamond/Pearl? EVs and Natures don't come to play in the Gold/Silver times. Gold/Silver are much older games but I like them better because D/P is waaay too complicated. So come up with a moveset that exists in Gold/Silver/Crystal. I suggested this:

Noctowl: Fly, Hypnosis, Confusion, and Reflect

reflect because he lacks def, hypnosis to put opponents to sleep. Fly and Confusion would be his attacks what's wrong with that? There isn't a whole lot of options unless I tried hypnosis/dream eater combo or use nightmare. Other than that there isn't a whole lot plus I looked up moves on smogon.com

 

[NoctowlNightmares]

Noctowl is good very good!Also its the only bird with psycic moves!

You're over looking Natu and Xatu.

I, as my name may give away, picked Noctowl.
It just looks cooler than Pidgeot.

 

[sims796]

Ok first off I rarely use Pidgeot which is why I couldn't come up with a moveset. Did you forget this IS NOT Diamond/Pearl? EVs and Natures don't come to play in the Gold/Silver times. Gold/Silver are much older games but I like them better because D/P is waaay too complicated. So come up with a moveset that exists in Gold/Silver/Crystal. I suggested this:

Noctowl: Fly, Hypnosis, Confusion, and Reflect

reflect because he lacks def, hypnosis to put opponents to sleep. Fly and Confusion would be his attacks what's wrong with that? There isn't a whole lot of options unless I tried hypnosis/dream eater combo or use nightmare. Other than that there isn't a whole lot plus I looked up moves on smogon.com

Yes, EV's did exist back then. Here's a Noctowl moveset:

Noctowl@Leftovers
Hypnosis
Reflect
Whirlwind
Hidden Power [ICE, FIRE, ELECTRIC]/Faint Attack/Toxic

Even in Crystal, she has better options than Fly :\ Play to her strengths as an annoyer/defender.

I'll do Pigeot later.

 

[KantoJohto]

Yes, EV's did exist back then. Here's a Noctowl moveset:

Noctowl@Leftovers
Hypnosis
Reflect
Whirlwind
Hidden Power [ICE, FIRE, ELECTRIC]/Faint Attack/Toxic

Even in Crystal, she has better options than Fly :\ Play to her strengths as an annoyer/defender.

I'll do Pigeot later.

No Effort Values were introduced to us in the 3rd gen games Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. I never understood hidden power like how do I know if it's going to be a certain type? Noctowl doesn't learn faint attack unless you mean a TM. You sure that moveset is the best to go with? I love Hypnosis and Reflect those are musts but Whirlwind? It doesn't do much does it? I mean it doesn't do any damage. I still don't see what's wrong with using Fly it's a STAB move and I believe it does 85-90 damage power

 

[Meadow]

Pidgeot is a lot better because it has better stats and abilities. Don't forget it learns better moves like Sky Attack.

 

[Tsurai]

It's a hard decision. If you want to go by the majority favorite, i'd say Pidgeot is the choice to make. If you go by movesets, and battle ability, it needs some thought. Pidgeot has impressive speed, and it can learn an okay set of moves. Noctowl has the psychic thing going for it, and it can prove to be useful, but it leaves it open to more weaknesses, and could be potentially weaker (or indeed a bit stronger) than pidgeot. I'd rather not make a whole post full of statistics and numbers, so i'll just say i'd choose Pidgeot ^^;; overall.

 

[sims796]

No Effort Values were introduced to us in the 3rd gen games Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. I never understood hidden power like how do I know if it's going to be a certain type? Noctowl doesn't learn faint attack unless you mean a TM. You sure that moveset is the best to go with? I love Hypnosis and Reflect those are musts but Whirlwind? It doesn't do much does it? I mean it doesn't do any damage. I still don't see what's wrong with using Fly it's a STAB move and I believe it does 85-90 damage power

First off, damage isn't everything at all. EV's did exist, as did IV's. IV's tell of the certain Hidden Power. If I am wrong on the EV's, my bad, but IV's did.

Whirlwind can force switches, thereby getting rid of stat uppers, like Curse. Plus, it can add up damage with Spikes. Whirlwind is a strategic move. Blindly doing damage works ingame, not against smart opponents.

As for Fly, it sucks, in all versions. 90 power per over two turns? You can use Hidden Power Flying twice & call it a day. While you're up in the air, I can EASILY switch to a counter, and make that little hide-in-the-sky tactic turn against you. For instance, swapping to a Golem.