Pokémon the Lost World

[Pika Storm]

That's exactly what I'm saying.
This game isn't going to do anything to product sales.

-_-

First forget about pokemon for just a second, then think about the long run. Which would you rather prefer

A.) a free game that has all the locations and is more realistic
B.) a usually overpriced game that is very limited and leaves out a bunch of stuff

Which would you choose?

 

[shadowking93]

hes got a point there my friends(i is sounding like John Mccain)

 

[Atomic Reactor]

Well, i hate sitting at a computer to play a game.
I'm just not into it.
So i would get a game that i can play wherever.

personal preferences.

 

[shadowking93]

but there is always a crowd of lifeless geeks who never leave their house. and if you want to play something not on the cmputer, why are you even in this section? this section is sorta dedicated to internet games you play at home....but, the handhelds get bored real quick, and barely have any large reigons

so i say, Stay at Home! (results may vary)

 

[Captain Arcane]

I would like to recall a major Pok?mon scandle that happened about 7 years ago.

About 7 years ago or so, a group of Japanese kids, decided to make a game, two games actually. One called Pok?mon Jade, the other caleld Pok?mon Diamond. After they created it, they shared it amongst themselves, and among their other online friends. The game was made purely out of passion for Pok?mon.

But, after they released both games, a group of Chinese people, took the game, and then started creating actual gameboy games out of them, and then proceded to sell them. They were distributed every, under the impression of real Pok?mon games, and I even bought them thinking they were real Pok?mon games. But clearly, when I started the game, I could tell it wasn't.

But, Nintendo later got word of two fake Pok?mon games being sold everywhere, and proceded to take action. Which they did, they found the group of kids who created the game. But the group of kids did not sell the game, the group of Chinese people did.

So, Nintendo investigated, and found the group of people who sold, and distributed the game. And they sued them for copyright infringement. And everything was settled. But the part that everyone forgets is that the people who created the game, did not face any law, or copyright problems. At ALL.

Now, heres is my game, Pok?mon the Lost World. But it's much different though, why? Because its made with sphere. It's coded with javascript. Meaning that it can't be played on any known handheld system ever created. Only on computers. Javascript is a language used mostly for writing websites.

So please, stop worrying, it is fine. I'm not saying that Nintendo couldn't sue me on a whim, but what I'm saying is that the odds, and chances are extremely low. Have any of you heard of Pok?mon Shiny Gold? I don't see Nintendo giving the CD to any other big games around here.


I myself will be looking into copyright information. But for now, do not worry about it,
Captain Arcane

 

[Atomic Reactor]

and if you want to play something not on the cmputer, why are you even in this section? this section is sorta dedicated to internet games you play at home....

I'm in this section cause I enjoy making games.
Not playing them. There are a few betas out that i choose not to download cause i odnt like playing games on the computer.
Not all the games are internet games either.

-_-

 

[qw]

C.A will you make it so that we could hold things like gutars

 

[Mooshykris]

First forget about pokemon for just a second, then think about the long run. Which would you rather prefer

A.) a free game that has all the locations and is more realistic
B.) a usually overpriced game that is very limited and leaves out a bunch of stuff

Which would you choose?

If you'd like to know my opinion, I'd have to say B. I am a supporter (and much more then you may think :P) of this project, but I must say, as a fan, no game would ever be the same as a real Pokemon Game, nor could it ever replace them.


~Mooshykris

 

[GFA]

Umm, I'm pretty sure that CA isn't selling on the computer or not, so it really doesn't matter. Plenty of fan games have been "Published", and there have been no infringements or copyright law problems with Pokemon games on the computer.

Oh and something Spammish, "You ruined my hopes & dreams man, I don't believe in nothing anymore, I'm going to Law School!"

 

[Yuoaman]

O_o

Several years ago, the people running this section sent an e-mail to Nintendo and asked how they felt about fan games, and they said that they didn't mind them, unless they took the actual graphics from the games, which I don't think CA is doing, so I think we're in the clear.

 

[Crosell]

I think nintendo can always sue someone who's making a pokemon game...
Hack or game, it stays copyright, if you change the name and make in in sphere or any other game maker there won't be a problem.
But the chances are like really low to get sued, I dont think anyone is sued on this forum, so it ain't gonna happen.
Just dont sell the games, cause they can sue you even more for that and probally they will if they find out.
Nintendo could learn of our ideas though -,-

 

[Obe3]

I don't see why everyone is still fighting about this copyright infringement. Captain seems to know what hes doing, in terms of what he can do and what he can't. I'm just mainly focused on new updates, which should be awesome.

Keep up the amazing work, CA

 

[Ravecat]

First forget about pokemon for just a second, then think about the long run. Which would you rather prefer

A.) a free game that has all the locations and is more realistic
B.) a usually overpriced game that is very limited and leaves out a bunch of stuff

Which would you choose?

Both, because nobody in their right mind is going to play a fangame INSTEAD of the latest official game.

good work Captain.

 

[Wichu]

Stuff about Diamond and Jade

Diamond and Jade are actually just poorly translated versions of a real game, Telefang. The 'creators' just changed the title screen.

unless they took the actual graphics from the games, which I don't think CA is doing

As far as I know, CA is still using tiles and sprites from the official games.

More copyright stuff.

I think Crosell has it right. Anything you do with Pokémon is still breaching Nintendo's copyright, but Nintendo wouldn't want to waste their money suing some guy who's not even getting anything out of it.

 

[Toph]

As far as I know, CA is still using tiles and sprites from the official games.

Captain Arcane makes his own sprites and tiles,
look on the maps he made, do you see any tile that is completely the same as on any official pokemon game ?
They may look the same, but that's to create the effect of a real game.
If all of his stuff is custom, then there is not a single problem.

 

[kay3o]

Captain Arcane makes his own sprites and tiles,
look on the maps he made, do you see any tile that is completely the same as on any official pokemon game ?
They may look the same, but that's to create the effect of a real game.
If all of his stuff is custom, then there is not a single problem.

********,

I see trees, flowers and rocks that are from the Pokemon games.
The grass, the water, the fences and bridges there all from FR/LF
The buildings are edits.. There great edits some could be custom Im not sure,

But this game isn't sprited with full-on custom sprites..
No offense to Captain Arcane,

 

[Captain Arcane]

********,

I see trees, flowers and rocks that are from the Pokemon games.
The grass, the water, the fences and bridges there all from FR/LF
The buildings are edits.. There great edits some could be custom Im not sure,

But this game isn't sprited with full-on custom sprites..
No offense to Captain Arcane,

First off, anyone with working eyes could tell that this ins't completely custom. Have any of you seen the trees, flowers, rocks, water, skinny trees?

But, this is to you kay3o, all the tiles that I have that are not in the official games, were made by me 100% percent. I can't see how you would imply that my Pokémon Center building tiles, or my other building tiles are edits. I don't ever recal seeing seeing Prof. Oak's lab created in any game like I have, not to mention the pallet town buildings. Those are not edits, those are custom.

 

[Involuntary Twitch]

I would like to recall a major Pokémon scandle that happened about 7 years ago.

About 7 years ago or so, a group of Japanese kids, decided to make a game, two games actually. One called Pokémon Jade, the other caleld Pokémon Diamond. After they created it, they shared it amongst themselves, and among their other online friends. The game was made purely out of passion for Pokémon.

But, after they released both games, a group of Chinese people, took the game, and then started creating actual gameboy games out of them, and then proceded to sell them. They were distributed every, under the impression of real Pokémon games, and I even bought them thinking they were real Pokémon games. But clearly, when I started the game, I could tell it wasn't.

But, Nintendo later got word of two fake Pokémon games being sold everywhere, and proceded to take action. Which they did, they found the group of kids who created the game. But the group of kids did not sell the game, the group of Chinese people did.

So, Nintendo investigated, and found the group of people who sold, and distributed the game. And they sued them for copyright infringement. And everything was settled. But the part that everyone forgets is that the people who created the game, did not face any law, or copyright problems. At ALL.

...Um. Not to be critical or anything, but you are completely and utterly wrong. If you're talking about the "Pokemon Diamond and Jade" bootleg games, they aren't Pokemon games and never were intended to be, and they certainly weren't homebrew games made by kids. Diamond and Jade were rough translations of the Japanese games Keitai Denjuu Telefang: Power version and Keitai Denjuu Telefang: Speed version, which were similar concepts to Pokemon but starkly different. They were developed by a little japanese company called Smilesoft, which specialized in monster-collecting games.

Yes, the games were bootlegged, sloppily translated, and sold under the Pokemon name to unwilling customers who thought they were getting a "rare Pokemon game." (The games were still fun, but slightly glitchy and very engrishy and most definitely not Pokemon.) I don't think there ever was any such lawsuit, or I probably would have heard of it. But your argument still makes no sense; obviously you don't know the first thing about copyright.

...Anyway, it looks like someone pointed this out already, but I just wanted to clarify. ^^; The game you're developing looks good, if a little too auspicious, and I wouldn't reccommend that you "wait until the final version" to release it because by then all interest in it will be lost. :/

EDIT: Um. And custom tilesets are probably a good idea too. But you're pretty good making a Pokemon fangame, as long as you don't sell it or defame the series (basically, putting up stuff that insults it or otherwise would degrade the Pokemon name).

 

[qw]

I don't think there ever was any such lawsuit, or I probably would have heard of it.

yeah there was nintendo sued them for over 10 million and smile soft went out of buisness

 

[Involuntary Twitch]

yeah there was nintendo sued them for over 10 million and smile soft went out of buisness

...News to me. I know Smilesoft went out of business, but I thought it was due to embezzlement on the part of the director and the fact they were bought out by Rocket Company.

Link please, or it never happened.