Sarcastic Prince

Good. That's kinda helped me decide to play it, as I wanted to play Wesley's hack, not something with things he didn't really want in it.

Well, it's understandable in every way possible that people would frown upon Ash being a hardcore polygamist. What inspi- no, possessed you to roll with this outrageous and downright bogus idea? Willies?

I didn't say that... :\

So... what will we do about LP? =) You are quitting right...?

That's actually a very good idea. I don't think it would bother people if you released a pure translation of LP as well as a version with your own changes. That way the purist can play it in pure form while everyone who really supports your changes can play that version. It'd be the best of both worlds, I suppose.

It's moving along quite nicely. Only two towns until beta release.

How about 2 people? I said in the thread that it wasn't a big deal to have the relationships but I've had a change of heart. It's not really your place to do such things. And the fact that all of the Gym Leaders are related to others from different regions is not only stupid [my opinion] but it is also highly improbable [fact].

I really don't see why you're not getting it yet; everyone merely wants a bug-free translation of LP, not your personal interpretation of what it should be. And to be quite honest you come off as a snob and make it seem like you're doing the whole community a favor by translating LP when the fact of the matter is anyone with a 10th grade education who knows how to work XSE can do a translation. I don't mean to come off as rude but stop acting like you're the only person capable of translating this hack.

PS: In all honesty the "localized" names aren't very good. For one thing there's no point to last names as the ROM carries a 12 character limit for names. Having a first and a last name will easily exceed that limit. Also you seem too focused puns and having the names relate to the Gym Leader's type to realize that at the end of the day the names still have to resemble real names. Have you ever heard of a person named Bipeda? In the official games all of the names sounded like real names. The one's you picked do not.

You see me complaining. I'm sure other people will too, given a chance. And I would argue that living in China might MAKE you Chinese, to some extent, as culture is often more important than genetics, but whatever.

And yes, it does.

Could have sworn that you said in a few places that you were Chinese.

The point is, your opinion doesn't matter. It's not your job to please yourself, it's your job to please your audience. You also can't go assuming everyone doesn't have a problem with it just because they're not speaking up. If you're genuinely curious, make a poll.

And you didn't answer my question about how you know Portuguese. :P

I was referring to the names I didn't know, assumed you wanted my opinion about that too.

As far as the relationships are concerned, no, I don't think it's a good idea. I don't know why you're trying to make all these people related to other people, or trying to connect it to the previous games or anime. If that's not something Wesley did, it's probably not something you should do. I would assume it was his desire to have his creation stand apart from the Gamefreaks characters. Additionally, with one single exception that I can think of, we haven't seen any particular relations between the leaders of Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, or Unova. I haven't gotten a chance to play through B/W yet myself, so there may be more, but the only relations I'm aware of are Clair and Lance, and Norman and Brendan if you want to be picky. Are Lauren and Zhery some kind of magical relative playground or something?

Secondly, why on earth are you giving everyone last names? Ash aside, and that being Anime only, I don't believe any character in the games has had last names. It's like you're trying to be both faithful to the games and divergent from them at the same time. And regardless, even if they were to have last names, which is something I don't agree with, they certainly wouldn't be their Japanese names, especially when a lot of those names were translated somewhat faithfully. Do you seriously want someone named Dawn Light? More importantly, would EVERYONE have japanese given names as surnames, or Japanese given names at ALL? Is it some kind of xenophobic rule that only second- or third-generation Asians get to give out badges?

It just doesn't sound RIGHT, it doesn't sound like something real people MIGHT be named. I'm aware you live in China, so you may not be as well versed with english or more specifically north american customs as I am, but a lot of those things simply do not sound like names. Most, not all but most, of the English names of gym leaders are real names which can usually, not always, be related to their type. I'll give you that there have been a few stinkers over the years, like Brawly, but there have also been a few that, to my knowledge, have no hidden reference, like Erica or Blaine.

As for the names you've presented me with here, as you have not provided me with what the non-Lauren ones were before translation, some of my comments may be off, as I do not know what Wes's wishes were. Taking that into consideration, this is what I would do:

I would remove all last names, and rework the existing names to resemble Wesley's names wherever possible, as the English localizations do with the japanese names, like Hikari to Dawn, and Karin to Karen, keeping them alike in meaning or in sound.

As I do not have access to the Zhery names, I would change Ariadna to Ariadne, consider changing Floria to Florence (though I actually kind of like Floria), change Trentan to Eddy (I really like that pun leave me alone <_<), change Atlur to Atlas, and change Voltige and the entire Zheri Elite Four completely.

I would change Rocha back to Rochelle, or perhaps just anglicize the pun completely and use Rachel, and use Marsha and Avice. WHY WOULD YOU EVEN PUT AN A IN MALCALM? WHY? THAT SHOULD BE A CRIME. You also have Mentalla of indeterminate gender. I would change that name, along with 'Bipeda' (seriously what the hell).

I don't mind Victorrie. It sounds a little french, especially with that last name. I can roll with that.

I have no comments to make regarding the Steam and Rival names because I do not know what context they are used in, or what the original names are. Other than to say that Xenzo/a is bloody stupid, that the japanese names are still bad, and that I don't agree with tacking another culture onto there randomly, if that was your doing. If anything, I would leave a section of them with portuguese-ish names, as a shoutout to Wesley.

As a footnote, on a general note, not necessarily pertaining to this hack but to things in general, there's nothing wrong with some people being related to other people, or tossing a japanese last name in here and there. I don't really think that should be used for this, something it is your job to only TRANSLATE, not IMPOSE YOUR CREATIVE VISION ON, but strictly speaking about the finished product, it's a very bad idea to have EVERYTHING like that. If this was your own work, which you had full creative control on, I would still be telling you that everyone having their japanese first names as last names, everyone being related to pre-existing characters, and characters with names that don't even sound remotely like names such as 'bipeda', are horrible, horrible ideas that would turn me and others off of your hack. Understand?

You wanted my opinion, now you've got it. :P

On another note, out of personal curiosity, do you actually know Portuguese? It intrigues me how a chinese teenager would pick that up.

Before I can comment, I need to know what they were before.

Much better.
If they're as good as the sprites, they will be.

I reply to them if I'm not busy. When you VMd me, I was busy.

Btw, AshGray does have bad maps. They are too empty and have many tile errors.

If you want a hack to be at your requirements make your own hack

By the way when I make my ROM Hacks I'll let you beta test them. They're gonna be a Ruby, Fire Red, and Emerald ROM Hack. If you find any glitches you can help fix them. :)

I'm sorry, I was just in an angry mood. :( If it makes you feel better I sent you a friend request. :)

So... you have strong polygamist views, eh?

I thought of it and I don't think it's that cool o.O
In fact it's polygamy... I don't think it's something that could be in game.
Give me Haruka if it really needs to be done =)

Since when could a ten year old marry three other ten year olds and have another on the side?He hasn't even hit puberty yet...

By the way we're never gonna be friends again because you couldn't do the simple job of a translating a simple ROM Hack.