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6th Gen Mega Evolution in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire

Do you think there will be new Mega forms?

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    Votes: 232 93.5%
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    Votes: 16 6.5%

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  • For those who may be wondering how they'll explain Rayquaza getting a Mega instead of a Primal, look at the story of the trio. Groudon and Kyogre both sought control of the world. They became greedy for natural energy according to ORAS official site. This desire for Power may be what caused those two to get Primals. Rayquaza who seems to lack that didn't get one, but likely absorbed natural energy like the Mega stones did. Actually perhaps the reason Mega Rayquaza is unique in the way it goes Mega could perhaps be that it shares aspects with normal Megas, and aspects with the Primal's it's fellow trio members did.
     
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    Mega Rayquaza looks great! I can't wait to see its 2D art, since its 3D model looks amazing.

    Its Ability is pretty interesting, too. Although, the official website says "these strong winds cannot be dispelled by changing the weather condition, except by a very limited number of Pokémon." I wonder if that means that, although Mega Rayquaza negates Desolate Land and Primordial Sea when it is already in effect, perhaps Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre switching into an already-active Delta Stream would negate it, too. I would prefer that over Abilities like Air Lock and Cloud Nine of all things being able to negate it, at the very least.
     
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  • Mega Rayquaza looks pretty awesome. Can't wait to learn the story of why it's a Mega and not a Primal. Sounds like it is going to be very interesting. I really can't wait for this game.
     

    Kieran

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  • I died looking at Mega Rayquaza, awesomeness is an understatement!

    "16:16: The reason why Mega Rayquaza is a Mega Evolution and not a Primal Reversion is to be explained in the story. It will also Mega Evolve through a way different to other Pokémon"

    Wow just wow.
     

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  • Mega Rayquaza does look amazing. I guess it is possible for it to get 2 forms now. I know it says random, but for some reason, the rock it sound like they are talking about is the rock in Kalos, that show where the Mega Stones are and looks like Diancie.
     

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    I have to wonder what this "unique way" it mega evolves is, and why its a mega and not a primal.
     
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    As soon as I saw that thing, chills all over my spine.
    Smash Bros 3DS tomorrow AND this!?

    I made some lame jokes with some friends tho'
    For instance, Rayquaza evolving in a "special way", along his signature move.

    "Rayquaza got sick of the atmosphere, so he flew off to space. He got hit by a pissed off deoxys' meteor and mega evolved. "
     

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  • Okay. MegaRayquaza is my favorite Mega of all the legendary megas. It's really majestic and cool!! AhahHHH! That ability sounds really powerful and useful too. I think it was morely likely to get a Mega rather than a Primal form, but I can't see why it can't have both. Maybe cause in the original story, Rayquaza is the one or the trio who doesn't care for the power and energy and is more of a protector/guardian of Kyogre and Groudon.
     

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  • Was anyone reminded of Giratina when you first saw Mega Rayquaza's design? It looks centipede-ish except with a chinese dragon theme. Will Xerneas, being the only Fairy type legendary, be the only counter to Mega Rayquaza in ubers now that it no longer has a 4x Ice weakness, thanks to its ability, and can kill off other Dragon legendaries quicker?
     

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    Was anyone reminded of Giratina when you first saw Mega Rayquaza's design? It looks centipede-ish except with a chinese dragon theme. Will Xerneas, being the only Fairy type legendary, be the only counter to Mega Rayquaza in ubers now that it no longer has a 4x Ice weakness, thanks to its ability, and can kill off other Dragon legendaries quicker?
    You mean with the mandible things below the mouth? I kinda see what you mean.

    Tbh, it might not have much in the way of counters, if any at all. IIRC, it's gonna get a boost to it's already massive wallbreaking offenses, plus it gets a nice new powerful Flying STAB to play with. And if it gets some Speed as well, then one Dragon Dance and it's gg.

    It'll still have some checks though, like Scarf/faster anything with an Ice or Dragon attack or something.

    And there's Fairy Arceus too. That'd probably be good against physical MegaQuazas.

    But who knows.
     

    OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire

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  • Was anyone reminded of Giratina when you first saw Mega Rayquaza's design? It looks centipede-ish except with a chinese dragon theme. Will Xerneas, being the only Fairy type legendary, be the only counter to Mega Rayquaza in ubers now that it no longer has a 4x Ice weakness, thanks to its ability, and can kill off other Dragon legendaries quicker?
    I was too, especially Origin forme Giratina. And to some degree of Kyurem as it has the same things, but smaller. Maybe Mega Suicune will get them too xD.
     

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  • I wonder if the monolith (there is going to be one in the special which seems to be connected to Rayquaza, plus the official site mention a rainbow stone) is connected to the rest of the Mega Evolutions in the Hoenn region.
     

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  • Well, that Mega (Primal?) Rayquaza reveal was quite awesome to witness live (although that particular form was rather predictable/expected to exist at some point) during the Pokemon-dedicated NicoNico stream! It reminded me of Elite Four Drake from Hoenn and Dragon Tamer Nicholas who emphasize the concept of "WITNESS THE RAW POWER OF DRAGONS!" :t384: Admittedly, I got exasperated that it took a while for the NicoNico presenters to show it... I tuned in during the last 1-1.5 hours of the NicoNico stream (probably would have forgotten about it if it weren't for the Pokemon subreddit) and was trying to multi-task by getting an assignment done, but my eyes kept getting diverted to see if I could glimpse any announcement. >_> After Junichi Masuda (randomly?) showed up and talked for a while, people in the chat were saying "MEGA RAYQUAZA", yet it took a few minutes for the scenes to actually play out. Kudos to the people who actually watched the whole 7-hour stream - Rayquaza's new form is awesome and all, but the relevant OR/AS news was a really tiny portion of it (with most of the stream just being a playthrough of Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire).. >_>

    Opinions on Mega/Primal Rayquaza:


    • The design is awesome; much better than every single hypothetical "Primal Rayquaza" design that I've seen so far... I was worried that the design would go awry (a path that most Mega Evolutions seem to be prone to), but "design gone wrong" was thankfully averted so much! Seems like the "mandibles/side-fangs" are the major point of contention so far.. The major gripe I have about the design (which isn't too bad) revolves around those reddish "beads/orbs" that run across Rayquaza's skin on the side - red is more associated with Groudon, so there should be some blue beads on half of Rayquaza's body to balance it out! And as if the pulsing prominent volcanic Tron Lines/Volcanic Veins of Groudon weren't cool enough, the Volcanic Veins of Rayquaza terrifically "escape" Rayquaza's body - I love that design feature!
    • As little as it may be, I'm a bit irked that Rayquaza's new Super Mode is a Mega Evolution rather than a proper Primal Reversion.. It just makes it seem weaker somehow (not to mention the inconsistency with the nomenclature for the new forms of Groudon and Kyogre).. I'm hoping that the reason for this "discrepancy" is a satisfactory one in-game; regardless, I'm probably going to be calling Mega Rayquaza by the term of Primal Rayquaza instead (primarily due to Rule of Cool, with consistency being another factor). Sigh...I'm probably going to lump everything as a Mega Evolution regardless (I was initially opposed to Legendary Pokemon getting them, but that ship has long since sailed..), with Primal Reversion being a sub-type of it (with the method of energy obtainment being somewhat different).
    • As for Primal Rayquaza's Ability ("Delta Stream"), I was hoping for a name along the lines of "Limitless Sky/Winds" (with the field of science commonly equating the Delta symbol, Δ, with the concept of "change", roughly representing an infinite amount of possibilities. You also have the phrases of "The sky's the limit", "reach for the sky", "(outer) space is infinite", etc., so there's that..) Once again, the inconsistency with the Ability names for Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre (Desolate Land and Primordial Sea, respectively) bugs me... If we're going to have "Delta Stream" incorporate Rayquaza's associative Greek letter, we should have had things like "Omega Earth/Terrain" and/or "Alpha Sea/Ocean".. Personally, I dislike the blatantness of the Greek lettering nomenclature (we already have them in the game titles and as design motifs of the Super-Ancient Pokemon; I think that's sufficient), so I would have preferred the set of "Desolate Land/Primordial Sea/'Limitless Sky'" for the Primal Pokemons' Abilities. Nevertheless, I'm glad that Rayquaza's association with "Delta" was thought through and was not just done for the "Pokemon Delta Emerald" just-in-case trademark thing.
    • Regarding the effect for Primal Rayquaza's Ability, that seems like "overpowered" done right.
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      An enhanced Air Lock fits Primal Rayquaza perfectly... My initial guess was that Primal Rayquaza's Ability would manifest as "Air Lock + Tailwind lengthened in number of active turns", but the negation of the Flying type's weaknesses works too, I guess. It's going to be quite a spectacle in doubles when Primal Rayquaza partners up with Talonflame and Tornadus.. To think that Kyogre was arguably once the most competitively dominant member of the trio, soon to be outclassed even in Primal form thanks to the existence of Primal Groudon and Primal Rayquaza..
    • I'm ecstatic that Rayquaza finally receives a legitimate Flying-type Signature Move, Dragon Ascent! It's gotten unnecessarily shafted of powerful Flying-type moves like Sky Attack and Hurricane (admittedly, I think Aeroblast would've fit better thematically with Rayquaza rather than Lugia), so this turn of events is a much welcome change. As others have noted, the sole mention of "Dragon" despite the move being Flying-type is odd, so I'm hoping that the move is at least Flying/Dragon to compensate (in the vein of the Flying Press move being dual-typed). I've personally considered "Outrage" as Rayquaza's signature move despite the move's commonness and predating Rayquaza's existence, because I felt that the first Dragon-type Legendary Pokemon version mascot (with a 680 Base Stat Total, of that!) should at least get something befitting of its powerful status. Also, Rayquaza repeatedly using Outrage at Sky Pillar in Pokemon Sapphire is ingrained in my mind after all that time spent catching it. XD As for the name, I can't help but feel like it should have been "Dragon's Ascent", "Draco Ascent", or "Draconic Ascent"...it feels like "Dragon" needs to be more adjectival.
    • I'm unsure on whether I prefer the English name of "Dragon Ascent" or the Japanese name of "Finishing Blow/Touch". While "Finishing Blow" sounds horrendously uncreative/generic at first glance (with "Finishing Touch" being just odd-sounding for a mighty Pokemon), someone on Reddit pointed out that the Japanese name of "Finishing Blow" (画龙点睛) stems from an old Chinese idiom that literally translates to "finish drawing the dragon by drawing its eye", and someone else on Reddit pointed out that the "blow" term could be considered a pun for Rayquaza's windy attributes. I thought all of those tidbits were quite cool for the move as a whole.
    As for Rayquaza's "Jade Orb" (I kind of wish it didn't exist because the duality of the Red Orb and Blue Orb worked just fine amidst the numerous other "ruby/sapphire/emerald" and "red/blue/green" references, but it's too late now.. :/), I'm hoping that it gets split into 7 pieces that the player has to find as part of a (fun-filled) Fetch Quest in a veiled reference to Shenron of Dragon Ball Z. :P


    I guess I'll comment a little more about Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre (with comments about some other Pokemon OmegaRuby/AlphaSapphire-introduced Mega Evolutions coming later):


    I love the English localized names of "Desolate Land" and "Primordial Sea" gaining inspiration from the whole "land of endings; sea of beginnings" concept. Although I feel like things can kind of be "desolate" to begin with, it's not too big of a deal. I was a bit stunned at the effect for Desolate Land completely neutralizing Groudon's Water weakness (although he kind of deserves it after falling prey to Kyogre's unrelenting torrents all these years XD) in addition to temporarily negating standard weather changes while Primal Groudon is on the battlefield.. I'm hoping that Primal Kyogre isn't outclassed by "normal Kyogre+item", though...


    Additionally, I'm also glad that Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre get proper legitimate moves after having lost exclusivity to their respective Signature Abilities of Drought and Drizzle (despite being shared by a number of other Pokemon, I personally considered Eruption and Water Spout as their respective Signature Moves, for thematic purposes). Precipice Blades (instantly reminded me of the equally epic "On The Precipice of Defeat" song from the Bleach anime
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    ) is a very cool name for Primal Groudon's attack (great Woolseyism of the "Cliff Sword" name), although it visually and conceptually made me think more of the Rock type rather than the Ground type... Origin Pulse, on the other hand, didn't resonate with me too well, particularly because while "Origin" is so blatant, "Precipice" doesn't really imply "ending" to me in contrast.. (I guess you could kind of say that a cliff/precipice is an "end of a rocky protrusion"...sort of...? >_>) I feel like we should have just gotten a powerful Water-type move named "Tidal Wave" (affiliated with fictional whales...(well at least Whamon from Digimon?) and as generic as it may be) and be done with it. There's even precedence for Kyogre having an attack called Tidal Wave!


    I think that's all I have to say regarding Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre at the moment. Their "crystalline" transformation scene looked odd, but maybe I'll get accustomed to it.. Also, still loving Primal Groudon's Volcanic Veins that just exude a sense of magma/lava/raw earth power!


    For those who may be wondering how they'll explain Rayquaza getting a Mega instead of a Primal, look at the story of the trio. Groudon and Kyogre both sought control of the world. They became greedy for natural energy according to ORAS official site. This desire for Power may be what caused those two to get Primals. Rayquaza who seems to lack that didn't get one, but likely absorbed natural energy like the Mega stones did. Actually perhaps the reason Mega Rayquaza is unique in the way it goes Mega could perhaps be that it shares aspects with normal Megas, and aspects with the Primal's it's fellow trio members did.

    This explanation could work..

    EDIT: This occurence is coincidental, but I like how Rayquaza was affiliated with "DELTA" in the Pokemon Trading Card Game years ago!

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    Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2i3kzk/not_sure_if_wicked_foreshadowing_or_crazy/
     

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  • Looking at Fenyx's mention of the red orbs on it, it's possible that it could the stones symbolize the absorbing of Mega Power, like how Sableye's gem pops out due to the energy.

    Also it may be that 'Primals' are actually Megas, and the people just gave the Megas of Groudon and Kyogre that term to show how scary they were, acting as primal forces with primal (wild) emotions. Of course though, they should've given Rayquaza's Mega a special term too, like Heavenly Evolution or something like that...
     
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  • holy ****!

    mega rayquaza is the best mega pokemon

    Holy**** you've used it? .-.

    Maybe design wise but we don't know if it's the best

    But personally I'm not fond of its design. Maybe it's those whatever you call it on its head, Idk. If you were to remove those I think the design would be much better, but still not the greatest Mega.
     

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  • True. I used to not like Rayquaza a lot, but its Mega definitely changed my views on that so yeah hard to believe I actually love it now just because of how awesome the Mega looks.
    yes i thought rayquaza was quite awesome but pretty simplistic looking
    i am very impressed with what it looks like in its mega form, and i hate most mega designs

    not only is his design awesome but he finally got an flying type signature move and ability!
    Holy**** you've used it? .-.

    Maybe design wise but we don't know if it's the best

    But personally I'm not fond of its design. Maybe it's those whatever you call it on its head, Idk. If you were to remove those I think the design would be much better, but still not the greatest Mega.


    those things look fabulous

    and read above, he also finally got a flying type signature move and an awesome flying type based ability
     
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